Saturday, June 19, 2010

Vegetarians: whiniest people on earth?

Vegetarians fall into the same category for me that Christians, Muslims etc. are found in. However, they seem much more afraid of the truth behind the deliciousness of meat than believers are of their "lowly" origins. The problem with vegetarians is that they over-think the consumption of meat so much that they warp the reality of the source of the meat itself. Vegetarians look at an animal and project their large human mind into the head of let's say a chicken (a brain slightly bigger than a pea). A chicken does not experience life like a human does. Chickens do not have the complexity of thoughts that we do, yet vegetarians appear to believe that they do, or perhaps it is subconscious. I would be willing to bet that chickens do not even understand what death is (or any of our prey-species). Sure, they experience some pain a few moments before death, but once it is over, so is the pain. Way over 99% of the chicken's life was a well fed, protected existence—definitely preferable to what a chicken's existence would be in the wild (I'll get into that more later on).

Regardless, vegetarians are experiencing a misfiring of their evolutionary hard-wiring against cannibalism. This I believe is the explanation for the nausea that a vegetarian experiences when the thought of eating meat comes into their minds. This nausea is the same as the feeling of nausea caused by the thought of cannibalism, which exists in most humans. Obviously, being the species that we are, it is beneficial for us not to eat one another. Across virtually all cultures, cannibalism is viewed with the strongest possible disgust—in fact the few that engaged in the practice were made infamous for it. No one needed to let you know that cannibalism is gross, you automatically perceive it as such—this shows how being anti-cannibalism is hardwired into our brains.



All people innately enjoy the taste of meat (why vegetarians often enjoy eating imitation meat). It is the reality-warping thought patterns that delude the thinking of a vegetarian, and this is why I lump vegetarians and religious believers into the same group. It should be obvious as to what I am referring to when I say "delude". Vegetarians perceive all other animals as being human, which is why they find it disgusting to eat them. It is a similar delusion which makes certain people go ape-shit when they see animals getting "abused" and perceiving it like those animals are human, and should be treated as such (should we lock up all praymantis females after they murder and cannibalize their husbands?). While I do not think any animal should have to experience senseless pain, we all have to experience some pain to earn our keep; animals are not superior to humans, and the animals intended for human consumption are here to serve that role. Do not confuse what I am saying with people that beat dogs or whatever, I obviously am against that because that pain is senseless and destructive towards the purpose of companionship that a pet is for.

Animals such as cows and chickens are the prey of humans, it is as simple as that. Vegetarians/animal rights people as a whole seem to think that the wild is some sacred place that apparently all animals "belong". Well, here is the lovely wild. I would much rather be killed in a slaughter house than to be killed in this way, but maybe it's just me...




The life of an animal in the wild is not all that pleasant, they are pushed to the limit, and when they get old or sick they often get mauled to death by a predator (if not before). Is a fate such as that really that much better than living on a farm? Prey species need their predators just as much as their predators need them—it is a mutual relationship. If there were no predators for a prey-species, then they would find themselves overpopulating and constantly avoiding starvation. Is it better that an animal is near starving its whole life than to be killed at the end of it by some predator? Predators try to ensure their prey is well fed (some directly, some indirectly)—it is the way of nature, and humans are a part of nature.

This is why I think that vegetarians/animal rights people are the whiniest pussies on earth, they think all animals should behave like the Brady Bunch (we are animals, sorry), and to make it worse, they are so damn vocal about it. I believe that all such people should go into Africa and try to convince lions to go vegan, just to see how the ultimate disagreers in their diet-philosophy react to their presence.

An animal that is well fed during its life and is killed at the end to serve some purpose has had a more meaningful and enjoyable life than one that spends it close to starvation, and ultimately becomes worm-food (an all but meaningless purpose). In death all animals (us included) will be consumed in some way. While a slaughter house is not all too pleasant, it is certainly a lesser evil for those animals than to have never been born or to suffer in the wild. Now some people may think that those animals lives would be better to have not existed at all—well, I guess that would be a disagreement. However, to say that animals would be better off not existing at all would be considered racist if that same logic was applied to the suffering Ethiopians. If you are a person that personifies animals in order to get that fear of cannibalism, then you can't have your cake and eat it to. Just because an animal experiences pain during its life does not give you the right (in my opinion) to wish that animal was never born at all. The same goes for a person that claims that the mentally handicapped should all be aborted, being that it would be the "humane thing to do".

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5 comments:

  1. You sound like a fucking bible-thumper who thinks that all atheists are devil-worshipers. I would love to think that all atheists are critical thinkers, but i'm sad to report that this post disproves that notion. There are vegetarians who eschew meat for ethical reasons, but there are plenty of other reasons for it as well. And there are divergent philosophical systems that call for ethical vegetarianism, many of which don't give a shit what you choose to eat. But besides that, you choose to ignore any non-ethics based reason for vegetarianism in your rant, lumping all "vegetarians and religious believers into the same group" as if there were no difference between someone like Fred Phelps and a Sunday-only christian who doesn't take the bible too seriously, or between a radical member of PETA and Joe Veg who keeps to himself. Or - between Fred Phelps and Joe Veg.

    Other general reasons for vegetarianism include health and economics, with disparate reasons under these umbrellas. I'm not trying to validate any argument for vegetarianism. I'm just pointing out that there are a lot of different ones.

    Here's something for you: Some vegetarians are in fact whiney bitches. So what? Some atheists are whiney bitches. What would you say if i told you that all atheists drink and smoke too much because Christopher Hitchens drinks and smokes too much? Or that all skeptics think George Bush blew up the twin towers because some conspiracy theorists have the annoying habit of calling themselves skeptics? You'd say it was nonsense, and rightly so.

    Your knee-jerk, reactionary comments are about as thoughtful as a lot of hogwash one hears from the religious right. If your rant had been about the portion of vegetarians who are whiney, i wouldn't have had a reason to comment. But it was about all vegetarians (scads of whom feel the same way about religion that you do, by the way).

    Yes i'm vegetarian. No, i don't care what you eat. No, i don't like fake meat products. Know why? Because they taste like meat. I don't like meat. I realize that i have an omnivore's teeth, but i've never enjoyed meat, even before i stopped, growing up in a house full of omnivores. While that's enough for me, i also have other very un-hippy reasons for not eating meat that i'm not going to go into, but it was definitely the right decision for me. There are plenty of other vegetarians in this world as well whose behavior doesn't warrant such vitriol. In fact, i'd wager that they are in the majority.

    I'm also an atheist and a skeptic, and it is in this context that i share my thoughts with you. If you were religious, i probably wouldn't bother. I wouldn't necessarily expect to be heard.

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  2. "You sound like a fucking bible-thumper who thinks that all atheists are devil-worshipers."

    I stopped reading there. You're just some angry d-bag that got his/her feelings hurt, cry me a river. Life isn't fair, and you shouldn't expect it to be. My ancestors didn't fight to get the top of the food chain for me to eat fucking carrots.

    Why do herd-atheists seem to always accuse people of being religious if they disagree with them? Being an atheist (in my opinion) is more about freethinking, not in-group/out-group mentality. It's like you morons think that all atheists should think alike, and if an atheist disagrees with you THEY ARE A BIBLE THUMPING CHRISTIAN. You're really stupid, sorry.

    I'm going to go make a hamburger now...bye.

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  3. Well, had you actually read the comment, you would have understood that i was making the precise point that you made in the third paragraph of your comment. I'd wondered if that first sentence might be off-putting. Apparently it is. Maybe in the interest of honest discourse, i should have chosen less provocative language. I was merely trying to point out that there are many different kinds of vegetarians, just as there are many different kinds of atheists. Some vegetarians try to impose their lifestyle on others, but there are loads of them that don't. It seems to me that lumping them together, not only into their own group, but also into a group with religious people - is practicing that same in-group/out-group mentality that you speak against.

    Apart from that, i don't see how not reading the comment can give you insight into its author. My feelings are not at all hurt. I'm aware that life is not fair, and i'm glad that it isn't. I'm not a herd-atheist. Indeed, i would be disappointed in atheism if atheists did all think alike. Whether i'm a douche bag and really stupid is irrelevant and unquantifiable considering what little information about me you actually have.

    Nor am i scandalized by your hamburger comment. I hope you enjoyed it. I'm not the least bit interested in a vegetarian world.

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  4. why cant we say that meat and vegetables are good?

    instead of this non-sense religious bull-crap

    oh and sorry if i sound like a hypocrite, but bradford west, you will never win this debate...

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  5. Meat and vegetables are good, I agree 100%

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