Friday, December 18, 2009

Bible Bull!@#$ (Part 2): Unicorns: Job 39:9-11, Psalms 29:6, Isaiah 34:7

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Here are examples of unicorns (a fictitious animal) found in the King James Version of the Bible. Obviously unicorns are not real, which makes this another great example of  bull!@#$ found in the Bible.


Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?  Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn? - Job 39:9-11 KJV


He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn. -Psalms 29:6 KJV

And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness. -Isaiah 34:7 KJV

Wednesday, December 16, 2009

Chatting with a Muslim.

 Here I am chatting with a Muslim while pretending to be a Christian (name I use is jacob_446), enjoy!

<MatureMale> yes what about Islam?


<jacob_446> i'm a christian...but im curious about islam..and what you believe
 

<jacob_446> what is it that you believe? 

<MatureMale> We believe...
 

<MatureMale> There is One and only God who created the heavens and the earth...
 

<jacob_446> ok....the heavens...and the earth...they are separate?
 

<jacob_446> you mean heavens...as in heaven?
 

<MatureMale> as in all beyond the earth
 

<MatureMale> the heavens and the earth were together and by His decree rendered asunder
 

<jacob_446> as far as the quran....who wrote it?
 

<jacob_446> for christianity...we have many writers...is it the same for the quran as well?
 

<MatureMale> the scribes assigned by Messenger of Allah(sas) had first written it on bones, parchment, leaves, leather
 

<jacob_446> does the quran have the 10 commandments in it?...or something simmilar to it?
 

<MatureMale> the author of the Qur'an as claimed by the Qur'an itself is the Creator of the Universe
 

<MatureMale> yes th Qur'an torah given to Moses(peace be upon him)
 

<jacob_446> mohmmad is the creator of the universe?...i thought he was the main writer..
 

<MatureMale> yes the Qur'an confirms torah given to MOses(as)
 

<MatureMale> God Almighty is the creator of the universe
 

<jacob_446> so it was inpiration from him...which caused the writers...to write as they did?
 

<MatureMale> he sent the guidance through his ArchAngel Gabriel to Messenger of Allah(sas)
 

<jacob_446> allah = god right?
 

<MatureMale> yes Allah is the unique name given to God and does not have goddess or godfather or godmother or plural made of the word
 

<jacob_446> interesting...
 

<jacob_446> but why not just call him God?
 

<jacob_446> or is it because allah is more specific to islam?
 

<MatureMale> because God has connotations attached to it from different faiths... Islam likes to have its own...
 

<jacob_446> that is what i thought
 

<MatureMale> identity to call the Almighty free of all connotations
 

<jacob_446> i live in the united states...and we tend to think of muslims as being terrorists....how do 
muslims view events like 9/11?
 

<jacob_446> we as in the country...i personally do not hold those views.
 

<MatureMale> No need to ask... a wrong act is wrong wherever it happens
 

<jacob_446> i think violence is bad...regardless of who commited it...don't you agree?
 

<MatureMale> yes... and it goes for all... muslims or non-muslims alike
 

<jacob_446> just out of curiousity...what is heaven in the muslim religion?
 

<MatureMale> killing of women in children either in new york or bagdad or kabul
 

<jacob_446> and is there a hell?
 

<MatureMale> *women children
 

<jacob_446> heh, i live in newyork
 

<MatureMale>  yes... and it goes for all... muslims or non-muslims alike... killing of women in children either in new york or bagdad or kabul
 

<MatureMale> women and children
 

<MatureMale> yes there is a heaven and there is a hell
 

<jacob_446> i heard of this one case in the middle east...of this guy cutting the head off this 4 year old girl...because she was not he right type of muslim...that just sickend me....and its probably a bad representation of islam....rihgt?
 

<MatureMale> well... I think we should differentiate between faith and what people do
 

<jacob_446> i agree
 

<MatureMale> its like constitution of a country and what the citizens do
 

<jacob_446> but the western media tend to portray islam as being evil.
 

<jacob_446> on the news they seem to send that message
 

<MatureMale> well... thats what makes ratings
 

<MatureMale> any book on anti-Islam is a hot seller!
 

<jacob_446> it is only because of 9/11
 

<MatureMale> any sensational headings in mags and newspapers sell the paper
 

<jacob_446> if that never happend...the fear and dislike of muslims would not be as high as it is.
 

<MatureMale> commercialism is the part of modern day economics
 

<jacob_446> yep
 

<jacob_446> i think in the end....religion aside...it is the people themsevles that are responsible for their actions.
 

<MatureMale> Well... as far as west is concerned dislike for alien faith specially Islam and muslims is well documented over centuries
 

<jacob_446> its true
 

<MatureMale> millions of books have been written in the hate of Islam and its Prophet
 

<jacob_446> any other faiths are viewed as demonic
 

<jacob_446> other then christianity
 

<MatureMale> even among christians flaunting and enimity of different denominations is well 
recorded
 

<jacob_446> i believe the key is respecting others...regardless of their religious beliefs.
 

<MatureMale> nice wordings but little practiced
 

<jacob_446> what do you mean?
 

<MatureMale> respect comes only when you fit into preconceived notions
 

<MatureMale> if you dont then no respect rather ridicule
 

<jacob_446> i think the real problem is not exactly religious beliefs....but rather ingroup..and outgroup....its just tribalism....we (as in the united stated) christians as being on this side...and everyone else as being on the other side.
 

<jacob_446> because the religious beleifs of islam are not all that radicaly different that christianity.
 

<jacob_446> not enough to be killing eachother.
 

<MatureMale> you might be partially right... other being ignorance... old adage... half the world doesnt know how the other half lives
 

<jacob_446> yeah
 

<jacob_446> its just lack of empathy for the "other side"
 

<MatureMale> true
 

<jacob_446> i've got to go, great talking with you :)

The Sadomasochistic God (poem)

the sadomasochistic god
he loved his creation
loved to see them in pain
loved to cause them misery
he wanted human sacrifice
enjoyed it while he could
when his creation would do it not longer
then he wanted animal sacrifice
until they eventually disobeyed
he then thought
what about guilt and shame?
the sadomasochistic god would ponder
how can I be all loving?
if I am a sadomasochist?
the only way is to be a narcissist
ego is the answer
but there is only one way for this to work
the sheep must obey


Human Sacrifice in the Bible: Judges 11:29-40

Then the spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah. He went through Gilead and Manasseh and returned to Mizpah in Gilead and went on to Ammon. Jephthah promised the LORD: "If you will give me victory over the Ammonites, I will burn as an offering the first person that comes out of my house to meet me, when I come back from the victory. I will offer that person to you as a sacrifice." So Jephthah crossed the river to fight the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory. He struck at them from Aroer to the area around Minnith, twenty cities in all, and as far as Abel Keramim. There was a great slaughter, and the Ammonites were defeated by Israel. When Jephthah went back home to Mizpah, there was his daughter coming out to meet him, dancing and playing the tambourine. She was his only child. When he saw her, he tore his clothes in sorrow and said, "Oh, my daughter! You are breaking my heart! Why must it be you that causes me pain? I have made a solemn promise to the LORD, and I cannot take it back!" She told him, "If you have made a promise to the LORD, do what you said you would do to me, since the LORD has given you revenge on your enemies, the Ammonites." But she asked her father, "Do this one thing for me. Leave me alone for two months, so that I can go with my friends to wander in the mountains and grieve that I must die a virgin." He told her to go and sent her away for two months. She and her friends went up into the mountains and grieved because she was going to die unmarried and childless. After two months she came back to her father. He did what he had promised the LORD, and she died still a virgin. This was the origin of the custom in Israel that the Israelite women would go out for four days every year to grieve for the daughter of Jephthah of Gilead. -Judges 11:29-40  (GNB)

Jephthah promises God that he will "burn as an offering the first person that comes out of" his house, if he gets a victory over the Ammonites. And of course he gets his victory. The first to walk out of his home was his daughter, and in the end she is sacrificed via burning. This shows how primitive people were in the time this story was written. It also shows that the content of scripture is society based, not inspiration from God — an all-knowing god wouldn't change its mind.

Monday, December 14, 2009

Biblical Law on Women who are not virgins on their wedding night: Deuteronomy 22:20-22

"But if the charge is true and there is no proof that she was a virgin, then they are to take her out to the entrance of her father's house, where the men of her city are to stone her to death. She has done a shameful thing among our people by having intercourse before she was married, while she was still living in her father's house. In this way you will get rid of this evil. "If a man is caught having intercourse with another man's wife, both of them are to be put to death. In this way you will get rid of this evil. -Deuteronomy 22:20-22

A women not being a virgin on her wedding night is a capital offense, but rape is not. Obviously the punishment far exceeds the crime (like many biblical laws). Not only that, but what a double standard; as shown by my post on the rape laws in the Bible, the punishment for rape is being forced to marry the victim. Of course the Bible was written by men, their "inspiration" from God always appears to tip the balance of justice in their favor, and against those they enjoy oppressing (women in this case).

Chatting with a former Catholic.

 Here I'm on a chat room (using the name: bea) with an atheist who was a former catholic (thought he was a catholic until the end), the discussion is interesting nonetheless.

<UsandThem> hi bea
 

<UsandThem> i used to be catholic so i might be able to help
 

<bea> i realy want to know the difference between catholic...and protestant.
 

<UsandThem> umm one of the big things is the idea of transsubstantiation
 

<UsandThem> that the bread and wine become jesus' body and blood
 

<bea> interesting
 

<UsandThem> and another thing is the idea of faith and works....catholics think you need both faith and works to get into heaven and protestants believe you only need faith
 

<bea> what are works?
 

<UsandThem> other than that im not sure...i mean they had a problem with indulgences....but that doesnt happen anymore
 

<UsandThem> like good deeds
 

<UsandThem> like helping the sick and all that
 

<bea> what is your view on islam?
 

<bea> i used to be a muslim..but i left that faith....for jesus
 

<bea> i became a catholic...but ..there are so many branches
 

<bea> not sure where i fit in.
 

<UsandThem> umm to be honest i have a problem with its susceptability to corruption that leads to many bad things
 

<UsandThem> plus, unlike catholicism, they have a high probably of rejecting science
 

<bea> yeah, i noticed that
 

<bea> they are very close minded
 

<UsandThem> yes it seems like that too me...i mean im sure there are reasonable muslims but i think that they are more like exceptions to the rule
 

<bea> they don't seem to understand that ...people grow in knowledge..and understanding...but at the same time.....can maintain faith in god.
 

<UsandThem> yes i think this is a big problem in any fundamentalists mind...they all seem to think that accepting things like evolution means they must become atheists
 

<bea> yes, evolution is an interesting idea....what do you think about it?
 

<UsandThem> umm i think that its as proven a fact that we can have
 

<bea> but doens't it disprove the genesis story then?
 

<bea> if evolution is true..then adam and eve..is not..
 

<bea> if we came from monkies..
 

<UsandThem> well yes it does but as a catholic for 20 years i was never taught that these stories were to be taken literally
 

<bea> heh, then how can you determine what parts are real ..and which are not?
 

<UsandThem> the catholic church and the orthodox churches both accept evolition
 

<bea> is it anything beyond just moral teachings?
 

<UsandThem> yes that is tricky
 

<UsandThem> since leaving the book up to interpretation is highly problematic
 

<bea> so did god start the proccess of evolution?
 

<bea> how does god work into that?
 

<bea> b/c it seem like evolution just takes over..
 

<UsandThem> well thats what most catholics say
 

<bea> for life
 

<UsandThem> yes i agree
 

<bea> where does god fit in then?
 

<UsandThem> ummm you are asking the wrong person
 

<bea> heh
 

<UsandThem> in my opinion he doesnt
 

<bea> i mean, in the universe
 

<bea> what is god?
 

<UsandThem> thats also tricky
 

<UsandThem> there are about 6.5billion different definitions of that word
 

<bea> hehe
 

<bea> you see like an agnostic to me
 

<bea> not sure either way.
 

<UsandThem> no im rather sure...as sure as i can be
 

<UsandThem> thats why i say atheist
 

<bea> what are you sure about? :P
 

<UsandThem> obviously im not 100% but we cant be about anthin really
 

<UsandThem> God
 

<bea> this is probably a hard question to answer..but what is god?
 

<bea> like...what is he...and what did he do?
 

<UsandThem> right so i say that no definion i have heard argued for makes sense or has enough evidence to back it up for me to believe in it
 

<UsandThem> there is still a possiblity that i could find one i believe in, but i dont think its too likely
 

<bea> this probably sounds strange..but ...how can you believe in something..when you are not sure of what that something is?
 

<bea> like, i have no idea of what God is..
 

<bea> how can i believe in something...when that something is completly unknown to me..
 

<bea> what is it that i would have to believe in?
 

<UsandThem> right....seems to make sense to me..
 

<UsandThem> i think that the best you can do is take the definitions you are given and evaluate them
 

<bea> the main definition I am given is that he is a spirit..
 

<bea> but that gets me no where...b/c i don't know what a spirit is..
 

<bea> god...and spirit...seem to be just words....when actual understanding of either word...is lacking..
 

<UsandThem> yes that is the problem when you told to believe in something that has a tendency to look alot like something non-existent than something that is just invisible
 

<bea> yeah, i tend to notice that
 

<bea> ...like ..what is the difference between god and nothing....I cannot tell....b/c i know nothing about both ..
 

<bea> and if something is invisible...how can we even know about it?
 

<bea> the idea of god is confusing..
 

<bea> we are suppost to belive in something which we really can't know about...
 

<UsandThem> yes i think so also....preaching to the chior if you will
 

<bea> I almost understand the view point of an atheist....not believing in a god....what is there to even believe in?
 

<bea> i don't want to admit it....but ....its a very confusing thing.
 

<UsandThem> yes really the point of view i have is to not believe in something until it is demonstrated to be true
 

<bea> evidence.....huh?
 

<UsandThem> yes i like evidence
 

<UsandThem> and the proper kind of evidence
 

<bea> but the thing is....according to christians...if you do not follow jesus...you go to hell.
 

<UsandThem> not just "feelings" that people have
 

<UsandThem> well just apply that same idea of god to hell
 

<UsandThem> i mean how do they know it exists
 

<bea> so you treat all ideas as equal?
 

<bea> I find it much easier to believe in an idea that has some evidence backing it.
 

<UsandThem> ummm yes and no....i mean if somethings are totally contra to reality as i know it i might dismiss it
 

<bea> i wish there was some evidence for god...
 

<bea> ppl say that they see god in a new born baby...and so on...but i just don't see it...
 

<UsandThem> well i think that just has to do with the state of mind religion puts people in...to see things that might not be there
 

<bea> yeah...sort of like seeing faces in clouds...right?
 

<UsandThem> right
 

<UsandThem> or making some random feeling into "being filled with gods presence"
 

<bea> i hate the idea...of having to believe in certain things...over other things....which determines wether or not you spend etenity in paradise..or pain
 

<UsandThem> well i think that the idea of hell doesnt make any sense at all
 

<bea> i wish religion was more based in just being a good person...and not what stories you believe were true or not.
 

<UsandThem> i mean does it make sense that the "creator of the universe" would torture people for eternity and be moral and loving??
 

<bea> hehe
 

<bea> an all loving god giving out an infinate amount of pain...for an infinate time.
 

<bea> it doesn't make sense
 

<bea> i hate how people try to do the ultimate exaggeration for god
 

<UsandThem> yea that doesnt make sense too me either
 

<bea> saying how he is all powerful...alll loving..all knowledgable etc
 

<bea> he can't be all of these things...otherwise..things would be perfect
 

<UsandThem> RIGHT
 

<UsandThem> it seems to me that you arent really a catholic...no offense
 

<bea> lol
 

<bea> none taken
 

<UsandThem> you are way too much in liine with what i think to be catholic
 

<bea> im just open minded i suppose
 

<UsandThem> well thats a good thing
 

<bea> so what are you?
 

<bea> if not a catholic
 

<UsandThem> like i said im an atheist...i dont believe in any gods
 

<bea> ur an atheist?
 

<UsandThem> yes i said that before
 

<bea> ....
 

<UsandThem> what
 

<bea> you fooled me..
 

<UsandThem> no i told you
 

<bea> know whats funny
 

<UsandThem> what
 

<bea> im an atheist to
 

<UsandThem> really
 

<bea> just looking for idea to blog about
 

<UsandThem> so you tricked me???
 

<bea> not completly
 

<bea> i used to be a catholic..and methodist
 

<UsandThem> did you really think i wasnt atheist?
 

<bea> i wasn't sure what you were
 

<UsandThem> i was catholic
 

<bea> you seemed to believe a god.
 

<UsandThem> nope i was just trying to be respectful
 

<UsandThem> and not come off as the usual arrogant atheist
 

<bea> i hate those sort of people
 

<UsandThem> yes its a little annoying
 

<bea> people that claim absolute certaintiy in anything...are arrogent...and ignorant.
 

<UsandThem> its too bad that people dont get that one atheist doesnt represent any other atheists
 

<bea> the one thing i dislike about the term atheist is the assumed certainty in it
 

<bea> obviouslly ...there is no reason to think a god exists...but at the same time...by defintion...atheists are people that claim to know there is no god
 

<bea> which is impossible
 

<bea> like it is impossible to know 100% a something does not exist.
 

<UsandThem> right...but i dont want to call myself agnostic because then its assumed that you are 50/50
 

<UsandThem> or something like that
 

<bea> yeah
 

<bea> well...that is what is assumed of the term..but it really means....a person whom doesn't believe in something...unless there is evidence for it. 


<bea> some agnostics claim to be 50/50
 

<bea> but a real agnostic is just someone that requires evidence to justify believing in something.
 

<bea> they form no opinions on things which cannot be proven.
 

<bea> like god...etc
 

<UsandThem> right i guess im an agnostic atheist
 

<bea> the definitions are just to broad imo.
 

<bea> i would fall under agnostic..but most would consider me to be an atheist.
 

<bea> well..i've gota get going...was great chatting with you.
 

<UsandThem> i think that we cant know there is no god but we can evaluate the positive claims about god and determine whether or not they are probable or even possible
 

<UsandThem> good talking with you too
  

<UsandThem> alright
 

<UsandThem> have a good night
 

<UsandThem> and a good holiday
 

<bea> same to you :)

Sunday, December 13, 2009

David Blaine + Time Machine = New Religion.

Just imagine if David Blaine was sent back in time a few thousand years. Imagine what they would have thought of him? If you do not know who David Blaine is, check out the following videos:















These kinds of tricks blow the minds of people today. Imagine how people would have reacted several thousand years ago to this? I bet an entire religion/religions would be constructed in his name. In modern times people (most people that is), know that it is just slight-of-hand which creates the illusion of magic. Most even try to figure out how the trick was done (most people don't assume it is real magic); in the past most people wouldn't have, they would have thought he really had magical powers. Ignorance leaves holes in understanding, the idea of 'magic' can help fill those holes up — people are uncomfortable with ignorance, they would rather feign understanding. People thousands of years ago would have thought of David Blaine as being a prophet. I imagine slight-of-hand magic tricks have been around forever. Imagine if David Blaine was sent back in time 2,000 years? Imagine the stories that would be written about him. Figures like Jesus (if they existed), were probably just old-school magicians, exploiting the gullible. That and the writers are known for exaggerating events to make a good story. Regardless of that, David Blaine + Time Machine = New Religion.