Saturday, October 9, 2010

Why I Support The Clubbing of Baby Seals. (rant against animal rights and vegetarians).

I am getting sick of all the wining animal-rights people are doing over the clubbing of baby seals. Seals =/= people. The problem with animal-rights people have is that they determine a creatures value based upon how cute it looks. Beauty is of course in the eye of the beholder, like color, it has no actual existence. If we were a super intelligent insect species, we would see grass hoppers and ants as being cute. Mammals of course would be viewed as disgusting (or at least as an inferior species).

While many animal rights folk would disagree, intellect is what makes humans great, it is what sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom. Humans are better than all other animals because we are vastly superior in this field. There is currently a war between us and all other species for resources, and the more humans that exist on this planet, the more of a struggle there will be for resources. We cannot pretend that non-humans are humans, and deserve equal treatment. If we do, than our civilization will be overrun by animals, and the human race will die off. This may sound insane, but that is what would be our inevitable fate. Imagine a world where rats and cockroaches were as free as humans, and where it were considered murder to kill either? Imagine the disease? Imagine all of the animal predators that would be free to reproduce and attack humans (we can't kill them off, because that would be murder). I want to stress that this is not a straw-man argument. It is the end which animal-rights folk seek to attain. They want animals to have human rights. When they claim that the clubbing of baby seals is murder, then they view the act of killing a seal as being equal to that of killing a human (making their importance equal). But what is it that makes baby seals important in the eyes of animal-rights people? Is it because they are mammals? Well, no. If this were the case then they would be even more pissed off at the killing of mice and rats (many more of them are killed each year). Is it because they are seen my humans as being cute? Yes! Is it because they are relatively intelligent creatures? (when compared to all other animals) Yes!

The point here is that both animal-rights activists, and those who are pro-clubbing of baby seals are on equal grounds here. We both value life based upon our own personal-human-perception of the world. This has nothing to do with open mindedness. In my mind, I view human life as being the ultimate on this planet, all other life is inferior and should not get in the way of human progress. 

Animal-rights people of course have not thought this out very much. I find that such people tend to be close-minded and angry. They use projection to imagine a human mind with emotions, pain, pleasure and general experience inside the heads of non-humans. In other-words, they incorrectly view all animals that have similar human qualities (hair, two eyes etc.) as BEING HUMAN. This is a big mistake, and it is just an over-extension (or as Dawkins would say: "a misfiring) of evolutionary hard-wiring. We are hardwired to want to love and protect things which we view as cute; this is because of the nurturing instincts we have towards human-babies. The thing is, open-mindedness does not apply to those that are only acting based upon instinct. Animal-rights people are merely acting upon their own instincts (which are misfiring). I say misfiring because the part of the mind responsible for behaving in such ways is only intended for humans.

Another 'misfiring' is our hard-wiring against cannibalism. Animal rights people perceive certain animals (cows, seals, etc.) subconsciously, or perhaps even consciously, as being human. This is why they find it disgusting to think about eating meat. We view the eating of human meat disgusting (well most people do). Here again, vegetarians mind-fuck (pardon my french) themselves into thinking that all meat = human meat. This causes that part of the brain that is revolted against eating human meat to be triggered. This is not open-mindedness, but delusional paranoia.

My final point here is that vegetarians (much overlap with the animal-rights crowd) refuse to eat meat, but they have no problem eating plants. They will claim "well, plants don't feel pain". But this is not the real answer, because even if the animal was given pain killers so that it felt no pain—they would still not eat it. The pain thing is just an excuse, it is the fact that these forms of life are more human-like than plants are. So it is not that they are against killing life in order to live, but that they don't want life that appears to be human-like to be killed. The difference here between vegetarians and those that eat meat is that we know that other animals are not humans, and act normally—vegetarians are fooled into thinking that all human-like animals are human, and they of course don't want to cannibalize.

My main point here is that if we stop clubbing baby seals, then we must stop killing all other forms of life on this planet, otherwise we would be hypocrites in valuing one form of non-human life as being higher than another.

Well, I'm going to go make me some eggs and sausage now. Enjoy your carrots you wimpy pricks.

P.S. If you try to point out any grammatical/punctuation mistakes, keep in mind that I didn't proof read this, so there probably are many (so you get no cookies or pats on the back). In other words, doing this shows butt-hurt feelings and an inability to refute any of the points made.

Have a great day! Thanks for stopping by :)

I don't really support the clubbing of baby seals, I think it is sad and a brutal practice. I just like to pick on animal-rights people, it's funny to watch them get all emotional. 

14 comments:

  1. "Well, I'm going to go make me some eggs and sausage now. Enjoy your carrots you wimpy pricks."

    Sounds like you're the one who's actually angry. It's sad that you only have compassion for people.

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  2. haha, this post was more of a joke than anything. I'm not angry at all, and no, I don't have compassion for my food. :)

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  3. You view is incredibly narrow and short sighted. We are all animals living on this planet. Humans are no better than animals. There is the fact that animals eat other animals. It is a means of survival.

    Bugs are seen as less important because they are low on the food chain, not because they arent cute, or less smart. The higher you go on the food chain, the lower the number of animals you get. Predators have never outnumbered the prey (if they do, they quickly die off from lack of food), except in the case of humans. Humans have reached the top of the chain, and started to destroy the balance in the chain. We've either started killing off the prey, or the predators, or both, causing huge imbalances, and disrupting everything.

    Everywhere in nature there is a balance. Without humans, animals would flourish, for sure, but not in the negative way that you have spun. Humans are the only creature on earth that doesnt respect the balance of things. We have grown beyond natural means of survival, and used artificial means of generating energy, and have grown our means of survival through it. This is all while throwing off the balance for the rest of life in the meantime.

    So when you talk about needless killing of animals vs farm growing food, you are just being an idiot. Sure the animal rights people can be a little off their rocker, but this post is equally as stupid, if not more so.

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  4. "We are all animals living on this planet. Humans are no better than animals."

    I agree we are all animals, but you claiming that we are all "equal" is your opinion, and I don't agree with you.

    "So when you talk about needless killing of animals vs farm growing food, you are just being an idiot. Sure the animal rights people can be a little off their rocker, but this post is equally as stupid, if not more so."

    It's intended to be "stupid". The only purpose of the post was to get under the skin of animal-rights tards. If you would have read the last part of the post you should have realized that. I think it is you that is being the "idiot".

    "Humans are the only creature on earth that doesnt respect the balance of things. We have grown beyond natural means of survival, and used artificial means of generating energy, and have grown our means of survival through it. This is all while throwing off the balance for the rest of life in the meantime."

    Are you kidding? I really hope your knowledge of biology isn't that poor to think this...

    "Bugs are seen as less important because they are low on the food chain, not because they arent cute, or less smart. The higher you go on the food chain, the lower the number of animals you get. Predators have never outnumbered the prey (if they do, they quickly die off from lack of food), except in the case of humans. Humans have reached the top of the chain, and started to destroy the balance in the chain. We've either started killing off the prey, or the predators, or both, causing huge imbalances, and disrupting everything."

    Humans should not be considered predators as a species. The majority of humans do not go around hunting other animals (farming is not the same as predation). Also the food chain is very unstable (you should have learned that in high school biology). You must realize that if humans are animals, then our effects on the environment are as natural as any other animal. You can't have your cake and eat it to.

    I understand that you viewed my post as being stupid (which I agree it was, it was suppose to be), but your arguments against it are very poor, or irrelevant. This post should be easy as hell to tear apart, you're all letting me down :(

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  5. I did tear it apart. You lack of complete understanding, and poor use of words fail you. I specialize in biology, and your inability to understand even the basics of how a food chain is derived is sad. You dont want to call a human a predator because most of us dont hunt, only proves you've completely missed the meaning of the term. I bet you think elephants are on the bottom of the food chain, because they only eat vegetation.

    You dont understand how the balance is achieved, and somehow you think that humans, by definition of being an animal are automatically part of the balance. So if humans continue to poison, over-fish, over-pollute, acidify, and heat the oceans, killing off all the ocean's animals through technology and intellectual superiority, that is some how not messing with the balance? If we have a nuclear war, and radiate the earth making it inhabitable, did we still keep the balance for life? You are uneducated, and ignorant of the point you are trying to make. Get back to me, when you are able to have a more in depth view of science and the world, rather than your asinine post trying to 'piss off' Peta/etc.

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  6. "I specialize in biology"

    You're rather lying, or have wasted a lot of time and money on your education.

    "You dont understand how the balance is achieved, and somehow you think that humans, by definition of being an animal are automatically part of the balance."

    If there wasn't for humans there would be perfect balance? Really? mmm, tell that to all of the species that have gone extinct in the last 3 billion years just how "balanced" it is.

    You cannot tell me that you specialize in biology, because that is bullshit. Humans are an incredibly dominate species, we very well may knock a few species out of existence, IT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT HAS HAPPENED IN EARTH'S HISTORY.

    "I bet you think elephants are on the bottom of the food chain, because they only eat vegetation."

    Elephants are relevant how? You seem to make many irrelevant points. You think that you are refuting my arguments, but you are not making any sense. Perhaps when your buzz wears off you will see the light.

    Do you really think other animals give a shit about "balance"? They are just making a living the best they can, and as humans we should do the same. I bet if I was to put you in a room with a lion, it wouldn't give a fuck about you. In-fact it would probably chew your throat out in a matter of seconds.

    You have this pseudo-intellectual elitism about you. Try opening your mind a bit bud. The world does not revolve around your moral relativism.

    Thanks for stopping by :)

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  7. I feel like I'm debating a high school kid. You apparently know nothing about evolution and why that would cause an extinction of a species, or how there can be an extinction event. I did spend good money on my education, and maybe you should try doing that, before assuming you know something. You dont understand the elephant relevance, because you dont understand what you are arguing. You dont understand what balance in nature is, and you try to make a point about a lion being able to kill a person (and you claim I make irrelevant points?). If I have an intellectual elitism, it is merely because you are too many notches below me, intellectually, to compete (Lower on the intellectual food chain, if you will). This also has nothing to do with morals. Nice job.

    You are unable to get your head around the fact that humans are the first species that have broken free from the restraints of natural resources. We now have technology, and can use fossil fuels and technology to increase our food supply artificially. We encroach on nature, and are unstoppable. But you are too ignorant to realize that. You think we dont need to respect the planet, and can continue growing in population, because we dont have to respect the balance. I'll repeat myself, you are short sighted, childish, and ignorant. I'm done arguing with you. It feels like I'm arguing with a religious creationist; there is no point, because I cant fix stupid.

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  8. wow i just read the comments ....jeremy you should be ashammed for being heartless and jeff you should be ashamed for being brainless. its like the wizard of oz, you both need to clikc your heels 3 times :P

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  9. Apparently to explain to you what I mean, I would need to commit too much time writing to you, to explain what I mean. I will end on this - Why was the human population so limited until the last 100 years, when our world population went from stagnant, to blowing up exponentially. Figure that out, and you will understand what I mean by growing beyong the restraints of 'natural' resources. Perhaps I should have said natural energy for better understanding, but my point hasnt changed. Really, stay in school.

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  10. Well, you still fail at making a case against my argument—I'm waiting for any actual argument against them.

    "natural energy"

    Natural energy? What the hell is that? (lol) All energy that isn't "natural" is "supernatural". All energy within the universe is considered to be natural. What is your point? That humans use supernatural energy as a resource? Tell me all about it...I'm all ears! Tell me all about the spirits and demons. If you are an expert in biology, then I am a fucking Jedi Master!

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  11. So there is only natural and supernatural? So where does something man-made fall in? I really dont know why I continue to respond to you. Using carbon fuels or nuclear power is not natural energy. You arent going to create or support life by pouring a little oil or uranium on the ground and expect it to fuel energy for plants or animals. Are you purposely being this ignorant, or are you really that uneducated? You certainly are childish, so a lack of education wouldnt surprise me in the least.

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  12. @Jeff

    I think what I said went over your head. If humans are animals (which they are) all actions done by them are natural. The energy which they utilize is not supernatural energy (which is what non-natural energy would be). Humans are, and have arisen by natural processes. When you say 'natural energy' you are accidentally referring to the 'what' instead of the 'how'.

    I hope you know that every time you call me both "ignorant" and "uneducated", you are being redundant, they both mean the same thing (ironic, no?). I think you are being quite childish, and the things you say do not seem to have the backing of any substantial education.

    I make posts like this one to piss off winy little kids like you—I love how one always surfaces. Thus far I have made a complete fool out of you. I hope you keep coming back, you are fun.

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  13. When you say,"All other life is inferior and should not get in the way of human progress.", you clearly don't understand the world at all. For example if you are a meat eater, you need to kill in order to feast. Well, if that is inferior, then let's all just sit and die. (vegetables are life, animals are life, etc.)
    Oh, and as a Christian I strongly disagree with you that all other life is inferior. Everything was brought into this world for a reason. (obvi).
    I am totally against the clubbing of baby seals, and why you aren't I can clearly see why.
    Anyways, you like to write alot about your views, maybe you should write a book with the title "Atheist I am. A story based on MY views and why I support the killing of baby seals." Hmmm...most likely won't be a best seller,but I enjoy to read and explore the thoughts of a young atheist like you.

    Guten Tag und Gott segne
    -Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
    Albrecht amsel

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  14. This was more of a joke post to piss off PETA people. I don't actually support the clubbing of baby seals...

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